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February 06, 2013

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And so you come to the very heart of the matter. It isn't about who gets to be the target of a drone or a Seal team for that matter. It is about how that decision gets to be made. Pragmatically these decisions need to be made swiftly and often with incomplete or contradictory intelligence. That's a lot to lay on the shoulders of any one man or woman. The problem I see is that regardless of the probity of whoever sits in the oval office ultimately some individual or panel is going to be considering a case put before them by the military and intelligence community and we all know how easy it is to steer that boat into a desired harbor. There's no way around the fact that any such system can be corrupted if the man at the top wants it to be. Better pick good presidents.

Exactly. No president should have such powers no matter if it's one you like or not. Bush shouldn't have had them, Obama shouldn't have them, and I certainly wouldn't trust a president McCain or president Romney with them. Maybe given the political climate we are in today with republicans in charge of the house, now would be a good time to reexamine such a dangerous policy.

I suspect that even the GOP has, until now, been comfortable with Obama making these decisions - and with just cause. I have not.


Obama seems to be positioning himself to fundamentally restructure the DOD. I hope that in addition to evaluating the use of drones on American citizens, we all revisit the whole concept of a "war on terrorism".

As far as our politicians go, I have a lot of trust in Obama to, generally, make sound, informed decisions. To the extent I could ever trust anyone (much less politicians with the self-interest inherent in the gig) with this kind of authority, he's about as good as it will get for me. And that provides some slim modicum of comfort for me with respect to the drone campaign. But imagining a President McCain with that authority, just for a few seconds. Hoo boy.

We won't always pick the right president. Heck, we pick the wrong president with regularity. That was part of the idea behind the coequal branches. But Congress doesn't want this responsibility, and the courts can only do so much given that they have to wait for a releant case to be filed, and even then are reticent to step on the executive's bailiwick. Plus, today's SCOTUS...uhh....

The executive branch simply isn't going to relinquish this authority, and the belief that it can basically say what the law is to justify a predetermined result or policy. Congress needs to do something. Here, at long last, is an issue where the House GOP can actually do some good by reflexively opposing Obama. But they won't. They'll repeal Obamacare a few more times and demand that Democrats offer the Medicare cuts they want but won't name, and keep screeching about Benghazi. But they aren't going to talk about drones, at least not in enough numbers to make anything happen.

If the next GOP prez is a war hawk, it won't matter what Obama did. GOP does whatever it wants and call you anti-American if you disagree. Media will let them get away with it because its the GOP and the liberals will be hushed and poo pooed.

I don't know. We can't act like terrorists aren't out there and we can't have future presidents abusing power.

I don't want Jindal or any other Republican to be in charge of our foreign policy, but that doesn't mean I don't want our foreign policy to be flexible enough to deal with circumstances out of the norm.

You can try to fashion a framework of law that defends our liberties, but in the end it always comes down to who you hire to be the cop. Even a corrupt cop can corrupt a solid legal system.

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