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January 11, 2008

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Neil Ferstand

I would love to believe you Mr. Carpenter - but the Democrats have a long and distinguished history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Let's hope the habit has abated somewhat for 2008.

Alex

You know liberalism is a manifestation of satan's very nature!? And the gop's god is made in thier own image!? And you know if "rudy" becomes prez, he will replace on our currency "In God We Trust",(the gop god)with,"In rudy we trust".

Bob

You didn't mention much about Ron Paul other than that he is humorless.

I would say you are right that any democrat would have a cake walk with any of the republican candidates, except Ron Paul. I think he'd put up pretty tough competition, especially with Kucinich as his running mate.

I'd say Ron Paul is the only the Republican party has going for it.

mary

The reason Ron Paul seems humorless to you is because of being true to his word.Our country is in a whole lot of trouble. Laughing it off when times are desperate is not in his character. Democrats and republicans are protecting their interests which are not for the people but for big funders. The only true exceptions are Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.This is a time to mourn for our country that has lost it's way. Truth and reality will hit us at home; unless we follow and listen to all those blind leaders of the blind.
Truth and freedom is in knowing our need to totally turn around and change our ways. Have a good day.

A. Magnus

I would expect this kind of an exclusionary fluff piece coming from the mainstream Pravda Press, not an independent commentator. It's obvious that to the author of this article the only differences were stylistic, whereas, the actual differences were on matters of policy. With the exception of Ron Paul, all the other candidates advocated big government, global socialist positions, yet we are to believe that Mr. Paul's only contribution was his lack of humor? It's obvious who is buttering the bread of this author's dinner plate.

Mooser

It's obvious who is buttering the bread of this author's dinner plate.

Posted by: A. Magnus

Mr. Magnus, it's not obvious to me. Could you please tell us who it is? And in what way these payments reach Mr. Carpenter.

My own personal opinion on Paul: Based on his other positions, the man is so gullible that just a peek at the "secret evidence" and Power-Point presentations will turn him into a raving neo-con.
We've already had a President who can't hear himself think. I don't need one who doesn't bother to read his own newsletter.

Mooser

Has anybody else noticed that supporting Ron Paul seems inevitably to lead to a disgusting excess of self-righteousness?

Bobby Decker

THE FIX IS ALLREADY IN....THE DEMOCRATS TAKE A DIVE AND NOMINATE
HILLARY....even if its Obama when they reactivate CARL ROVE they'll have convinced 51% of America Barack,s Willie Horton
who converted to Islam in prison
.....all that's left to do after November 4TH is officially
declare the DEMOCRATIC PARTY BRAIN DEAD and have Ted Kennedy remove the feeding tube!!!

Bradley E. Bourn

Boy oh boy, I wish I was as smart as you and had your great analytical powers. Thank God you are alive and have this blog for I was running out of things to waste my time on.
GO RON PAUL!

Lj

PM, love the sentiments of your commentary, BUT you simply underestimate the ability of corporate money... I mean the BILLIONS of dollars behind corporate America and the hyper-wealthy who rule this nation - to gloss-over any differences (between their candidates/positions) and to invert reality come November 2008.
(Chamber of Commerce vows $60 million to defeat "anti-business" candidates.) http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-chamber8jan08,0,4301350.story
i.e. the "What's the Matter With Kansas?" syndrome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Matter_with_Kansas%3F
Kansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, and other states were PARAGONS of "grass-roots Populism" through most of the 20th century, but enough of the public allowed themselves to be HOODWINKED by Karl Rove's Repub divide-and-conquer Identity Politics of the late 1990s-2006 to give Bush, Cheney & the ruling class the power they needed to raid deeply into the jobs, wages, benefits, pockets & pocketbooks of working family Americans.

The fact that many of these elections were stolen by Diebold machines (probably starting with Senator Chuck Hagel, co-owner of ES&S voting machines in Kansas in 1996
http://www.scoop.co.nz/news/politics.html
Hagel improbably winning even Black precincts in, Suprise! votes tabulated on ESS predecessor American Information Systems voting machines, only, for that election) doesn't count for too much: it still means that Americans were STILL willing to let themselves be robbed by identity politics hatred. (The textbook or iconic image of that identity-politics self-destructing animosity is a Herblock cartoon from the early 1960s of a poor, barefoot white farmer in coveralls, trying to stay out of the muck of a large muchole labelled "Segregation" by jumping up on the back of a young black male, also in farm-worker overalls, who is sinking into the mud with the white man struggling furiously on his shoulders.)
We know that, despite Kerry's pathetically lame, take-a-fall, say-no-bad-thing about a Skull-and-Bones brother campaign, Bush/Cheney/Rove STILL had to steal Ohio... and probably Florida, Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico as well. Iowa of course is lilly-white, New Mexico disenfranchising natives is what American empire has been about for 300 years. (And how deceased Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rhenquist got his start in politics, sandbagging minority voters at polls in 1950s Arizona.) It doesn't matter: Big Biz/establishment Republicans KNOW HOW TO STEAL ELECTIONS, to get the populace to accept the ruthless Robber Baron agenda, and there are no Teddy Roosevelts or FDRs or Trumans or Lyndon Johnsons on the horizon to turn that freight train around.
What is worse than Kerry "Taking-a-Fall" for Bush-Cheney in 2004.. is that THAT AGENDA is STILL the DOMINANT agenda in the "DEMOCRATIC" Party, from Nancy Pelosi practically kissing George W. Bush
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bush-vows-to-use-his-veto-whatever-the-cost/2007/03/29/1174761668801.html
at the "I will veto everything you Democratic 'opposition' leaders do" dinner
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bush-vows-to-use-his-veto-whatever-the-cost/2007/03/29/1174761668801.html, to Richardson, Biden, Dodd, Hillary, Kerry, Obama, and others talking "UNITE AMERICA, END PARTISAN BICKERING."
Sorry about this long-winded comment, but I hope I have laid out the case that clueless Democrats will do OVER HALF of the Republican's shaft-the-majority work for them...
And this gem of a cite proves that the Dems are already in trouble: the Chamber of Commerce, alone, pledges to spend $60 million, SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS, to defeat ANY "anti-business candidates. (Never mind that they were instrumental in defeating Senate MAJORITY LEADER Tom Daschle back in 2002, and now, predictably enough, we are almost in a RECESSION, if not there already!)
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-chamber8jan08,0,4301350.story
That is OVER HALF of what the entire Kerry/Democratic Party presidential campaign raised in 2004, coming from ONE big-biz advocacy group!
Just imagine how much more Exxon-Mobile can push into the process through their wholly-owned AEI (a quasi-governmental Right-Wing think tank that the media runs to everytime they want some intellectual polish on the latest Right-Wing talking points), Mellon-Scaife foundation fortune, Olin foundation fortune, Halliburton, Lockheed, Blackwater, and other billion-dollar corporate fundraisers.
With all "Democratic" 'leaders' but Kucinich and Edwards talking about "Ending the Partisan divide", and with Republicans able to turn "Lincoln Bedroom" molehills into front-page dominating "scandals", and with Bush and Cheney pushing to start war with Iran as soon as possible, saying that the GOP is "splintered" is hopeful, to say the least.

Humorless (therefore unqualified to be Prez)

Ron Paul's being "humorless" is quite the litmus test.

Especially in light of the humor of the rest of the assclowns running, it's astounding.

What's the burr up your tail about Ron?

CV

"Has anybody else noticed that supporting Ron Paul seems inevitably to lead to a disgusting excess of self-righteousness?"
Mooser
Which is Chicken, Which is egg?
That is: Is it a pre-existing condition?

Lj

Great commentary, P.M., but (to steal a line from Neal (first comment, above) "NEVER COUNT OUT the Democrat's Ability to SNATCH DEFEAT from JAWS OF VICTORY," and if there is one thing that we have learned from the Gore, Daschle, & Kerry campaigns, and Nancy Pelosi's 110th Congress, it is that if the Dem. candidates/leaders DON'T COME OUT SWINGING (running hard-hitting oppo ads, "Opposition Research" ads that DEMOLISH an opponent's record and credibility, using karl rove methods if with an honest message) the MOMENT THEY ANNOUNCE their campaigns, THEY WILL NOT start being aggressive later on in their campaigns or leadership agenda. They just have been too trained (Pavlov-dog fashion) that to CONFRONT Republican gross, criminal abuses of power is being "TOO PARTISAN' so they don't.

Indeed, Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, kerry, and all the other Democratic pooh-bahs who 'run' the Congress this year, STILL HAVE NOT SOUGHT to AGGRESSIVELY PROSECUTE well documented VOTING FRAUD cases... much less the Rove-Gonzales PURGE-GATE scandal, the turning of the US Justice Department into a Karl Rovian wing of the KKK with a corrupt partisan conviction of Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman to show for it!
And the above description of Dem complicity with Republican abuses of power doesn't even mention- never underestimate the ability of corporate money - the BILLIONS of dollars behind corporate America and the hyper-wealthy who rule this nation - to gloss over any differences (between Repub candidates and positions) and to invert reality come election November 2008.
i.e. the "What's the Matter With Kansas?" syndrome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Matter_with_Kansas%3F
Kansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, and other states have been PARAGONS of "grass-roots Populism" through most of the 20th century, but enough of the public allowed themselves to be HOODWINKED by Karl Rovian Repub divide-and-conquer Identity Politics of the late 1990s-2006 to give Bush, Cheney & the ruling class the power they needed to raid deeply into the jobs, wages, benefits, pockets & pocketbooks of working family Americans this past decade.
The fact that many of these elections were stolen by Diebold machines (probably starting with Senator Chuck Hagel, co-owner of ES&S voting machines in Kansas in 1996
http://www.scoop.co.nz/news/politics.html
Hagel improbably winning even Black precincts in, Suprise! votes tabulated solely on ES&S predecessor American Information Systems voting machines for that election) doesn't count for too much: it still means that Americans were STILL WILLING to let themselves be robbed by identity politics hatred.
(The textbook or iconic image of that identity-politics self-destructing hatred of "others" is a Herblock cartoon from the early 1960s of a poor, barefoot white farmer in coveralls, trying to stay out of the muck of a large mud-hole labeled "Segregation," by jumping up on the back of a young black male, also in farm-worker overalls, who is sinking into the mud as the white man struggles furiously on his shoulders.)
We know that, despite Kerry's pathetically lame, Take-a-Fall, say-no-bad-thing about a Skull-and-Bones-brother campaign, that Bush/Cheney/Rove STILL had to steal Ohio... and probably Florida, Nevada, Iowa, and New Mexico as well.
Iowa of course is lily-white state that was robbed of an honest vote count, and in New Mexico, disenfranchising natives is what American empire has been about for over 300 years. (And how deceased Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rhenquist got his start in politics, sandbagging minority voters at polls in 1950s Arizona.)
IT DOESN'T MATTER! Big Biz/establishment Republicans KNOW HOW TO STEAL ELECTIONS, to get the populace to accept the ruthless Robber Baron agenda by blaming minorities for economic problems, and now using "The War on Terror" to legitimize monstrously huge government expenditures, war powers, and chronic invasions of privacy. Today there are no Teddy Roosevelts or Franklin D Roosevelts or Harry Trumans or Lyndon Johnsons on the horizon to turn that freight train around, and Barak Obama has neither the firepower of John and Bobby Kennedy, nor the multi-million dollar Kennedy empire and media machine backing him.
What is worse than Kerry "Taking-a-Fall" for Bush-Cheney in 2004.. is that THAT AGENDA is STILL the DOMINANT agenda in the "DEMOCRATIC" Party, from Nancy Pelosi practically kissing George W. Bush
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bush-vows-to-use-his-veto-whatever-the-cost/2007/03/29/1174761668801.html
at the "I will veto everything you Democratic 'opposition' leaders do" dinner, to Richardson, Biden, Dodd, Hillary, Kerry, Obama, Reid, and others Democratic "leaders" talking "UNITE AMERICA to END PARTISAN BICKERING" even as Republicans continue to make a fortune robbing American voters and looting the US Treasury.
Sorry about this long-winded comment, but I hope I have laid out the case that clueless Democrats will do OVER HALF of the Republican's shaft-the-majority work for them...
And this gem of a cite proves that the Dems are already in trouble: the Chamber of Commerce, alone, pledges to spend $60 million, SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS, to defeat ANY "anti-business candidates.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-chamber8jan08,0,4301350.story
(Never mind that they, Chamber of Commerce campaign hit-teams, were instrumental in defeating Dem. Senate MAJORITY LEADER Tom Daschle back in 2002, and now, predictably enough, we Americans are almost in yet another Bush RECESSION, if we aren't there already!)
That is, the Chamber of Commerce, alone, plegdes to spend OVER HALF of the money raised by the entire Kerry/Democratic Party presidential campaign in 2004; this money coming from ONE big-biz advocacy group for Democrat-busting pro-business attack ads, alone!

Just imagine how much more Exxon-Mobile can push into the process through their wholly-owned AEI (a quasi-governmental Right-Wing think tank that the media runs to every time they want some intellectual polish on the latest Right-Wing talking points), or how much the Mellon-Scaife foundation fortune, Olin foundation fortune, Halliburton, Lockheed, Blackwater, and other billion-dollar corporations can push into the process to defeat any Democratic candidate.

With all "Democratic" 'leaders' but Kucinich and Edwards talking about "Ending partisan bickering," and with Republicans able to turn "Lincoln Bedroom" molehills into front-page "scandals", and with Bush and Cheney pushing to start war with Iran as soon as possible, saying that the GOP will be "splintered" come November 2008 is being hopeful, to say the very least.

Fred

You are truly fu##ing kidding yourself, me, us.

Bush absolutely stole 2000 killing 200+ years democracy by calling upon daddies bought and paid for garbage to cast their five votes. US 0, poor 0, world screwed.

Then in 2004 he used the oldest startegy in the book - election fraud. Diebold fixed Ohio and walla another fraudulent stolen election.

The Democrats are fighting fixed elections and murderous people who will do anything absolutely anything to win in a country no longer democratic just run by the richest.

They will be lucky to come even close and we will go on illegally killing thousands for oil profiteering. And so it goes...

Bobby Decker

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