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June 16, 2011

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Robert Lipscomb

I think 40 years of concerted right wing propaganda has led to the Tea Party. It has been a phenominal effort on their part. Its cousin, the religious right, have not been so easily fooled. Say whay you will about the religious right, their belief system was generated outside the propaganda. The Tea Party is the bastard child of corporate Republican propaganda.

Robert Lipscomb

please excuse me. I posted too soon.

My point is that the religious right was always used by corporate Republicans. Lately, they have been somewhat estranged. still dating mind you, but not in a committed relationship. The Tea Party, as I said, is the bastard child who keeps showing up family gatherings.

The propaganda program has worked so well that "conservatives" under the age of 60 cannot recall or fathom conservative, such Dirkson or Rockefellar or George H. W. Bush. This propaganda created W as much as it created the Tea Party.

This not to take away any deviousness from W or Rove. I simply suggest they are the natural manifestation of the movement and also symptoms of it - as is the Tea Party. This leads me to wonder whether the Tea Party is the Frankenstien's monster ofcorporate Republicans.

Marc McKenzie

@Rob--Solid points, as always, Rob.

Another Rob--Robert Parry, actually--has long detailed the partnership (if one can use that word) between the Religious Right and the Republican Party.

Anne Johnson

At the beginning of last month, when Obama rid the world of Osama bin Laden, I can remember a whole parade of former Bush clowns turning up on the interview shows trying to take credit for the killing and seeing old clips of "the decider" giving his garbled speeches and stating that bin Laden was no longer a priority for him. I looked at those too close together eyes of his and that expression of malevolent stupidity on his face and thought how happy I was that he and his gang were out of office. It brought back memories of the eight years we had to endure of his odious presence and not just in his bumbling-bully foreign policy. I saw the robber baron who tried to take away social security. I saw the spoiled rich kid who took the taxpayers' money and spent it like it was daddy's credit card and he was on spring break. And even though this sorry lot GOP presidential wannabes's is even worse, it in no way whatsoever makes me nostalgic for the good old 2000's. The decade of out of control for no good reason government spending, the unnecessary wars that cost far too many lives, the obliviousness to the impending economic implosion concentrating instead on congressional investigations into steroid use in Major League Baseball. No I don't miss Bush or that era of the artificially inflated economy at all. Good riddance and let's hope that element never comes back anytime soon.

CK MacLeod

Bush was us. He received ca. 50% of the vote the first time out, was re-elected. For an extended period over the course of his first term he maintained sky-high approval ratings. The invasion of Iraq was a popular decision. For most of his two terms, his economic stewardship was considered quite successful. For much of that time, our democratic republican system gave him congresses of his own party, and the other party was more than half-complicit in everything he did.

Claiming that Bush, as now the Tea Party, was a result of propaganda is obviously inadequate to explain how an entire country comes to think and behave as we did. It wasn't propaganda, or only propaganda, that fed and sustained a widespread perception, over decades, that American liberalism was in decline, with nothing new to offer, and much to answer for. Tea Party lunacy may be a lunacy, but it has an internal logic fully consistent with fundamental American assumptions. Unpack those, and consider more seriously what it would require to rid ourselves of them, and you may even begin to feel nostalgia for the 2000s, if not for their figurehead.

Dorothy Rissman

The post and all of the above comments are thoughtful and thought provoking. Thank you. I will spend some time thinking about the points of view expressed above. dr

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