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October 07, 2015

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Bob Puharic

I'm just a dumb chemical engineer. I have a fleeting familiarity with poetry and other literature. Yet there's a magic in Shakespeare's language that makes learning Elizabethan English worth it. Perhaps there's a place for this, side by side with the original. But it's kind of like the remakes of classical movies. Never the same. Never as good.

Peter G

2B or 2not B? ?. Cooler to be dissed by luck or get in its grill?


That's the script of the first texting presentation of Hamlet's soliloquy from actors sitting on a stage and addressing the audience's phones. Not at my beloved Stratford by God.

Peter G

So here's two takes on the Crispian Day speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yZNMWFqvM and this from Renaissance Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHYeDqEngxU

I watched them film a piece of the latter at the Sarnia border crossing where Benitez and the other misfits were crossing to see this play at Stratford. It is easily understood is it not? And powerful, so much so that the Marines use The few, The Proud as their recruiting motto. The Crispian's Day speech resonates throughout popular culture and a rousing speech to the troops whether they be soldiers or nerds or members of Animal House is a literary convention. None did it so well as Shakespeare. Sometimes it doesn't end well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwmqp3GLMc

Bob

Shucks, PM, even the Bible has been translated into modern language. When Turner started colorizing movies my brother-in-law the media arts professor probably should have been heavily sedated even though no black and white copies were destroyed in the process. I even enjoyed watching many of the so-called abominations, especially 'The Maltese Falcon'. The novelty eventually wore off, though, and I'd just as soon see the originals now. Likewise, existing copies of Shakespeare's works will not be lost and the original wordings are all in the public domain and available on the web for free.

I haven't noticed a colorized movie broadcast for years. Evidently most other people who enjoy classic movies would rather see them in their original form. The same will likely prove true for Shakespeare plays.

The Raven

Ach, conservatives always complain about the death of high culture, but high culture is still here. The OSF is still performing the original plays (and you should go if you haven't been), the original texts are widely available, and what's the problem already?

Hey, if you really want to have an aneurysm, there's always the Thug Notes summaries.

David & Son of Duff

I, too, have seen this day coming and in a tiny way I have helped it along - mea culpa! I have directed several amateur productions of Shakespeare and I never hesitate to modernise an archaic word or phrase here or there if it is likely to aid understanding. I like to imagine that Will would have nodded his head in approval because he was a very *practical* man of the theatre and for sure he would have wanted his audiences to understand.

Much of his work he chopped and changed himself so there is no need to approach it as though it - assuming you can decide which 'it' you think is the one he preferred - is some sort of pristine relic.

However, there is one thing about which I was rigorous, and that was abiding by the iambic pentameter. That must not be altered and sometimes, dammit, I could not think of a modern replacement word or phrase that would abide by the rhythm. A great deal of the clowns' speeches written in prose can be well and truly hacked and, albeit carefully, modernised because the joke references are now 400 years old and whilst they might have had the groundlings at The Globe falling about they are meaningless to us.

I respect Prof. Schapiro and tomorrow I will read his op-ed with interest.

The Dark Avenger

"To be or not to be--I think I'll have some Merlot."

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